Posted by jb heretic on September 24, 19100 at 10:44:21:
In Reply to: Re: Levels of consciousness (I've been wr ) posted by jb on September 24, 19100 at 08:48:16:
: I will say this and I may not spell the word right, but some early church fathers believed in apokatastasis. And that term basically implies universal salvation, expresses the belief that Christ's salvific action was so utterly and completely and unambiguously efficacious that all will be saved. I am fairly well certain that, while no one need believe this early teaching, that it is NOT heresy to believe it either. While the Church does make definitive claims about whom She thinks is in heaven, at times, it positively does NOT suggest that it has any knowledge whatsoever, that there is anybody in hell. The Church requires a belief in hell, best I have come to understand it, as a theological possibility, as a practical necessity
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i should just point out that the apokatastasis doctrine as originally conceived was (is) heresy but that my nuanced form ---that we can believe that there is the possibility that there is no one in hell, I *think* is not heretical
best me leave that to the dogmatic theologians ;>)