Re: Fairy Tales & Children's Stories

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: jb, : Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. : I had a very energetically intense weekend....... : ........ : : Well, my thoughts were good and original, eh? The good thoughts were not too original (they WERE Haught's, Whitehead, Polyani, Wilber et al) and my original thoughts were not too good! : Your thoughts were great! Good synthesis, too. : : : : So, then, it follows that you think that what we experience is different from reality as it is : : : because what we experience is processed through our sensations, perceptions, etc? : : ahem! well, give me a few more decades on that question! : I am getting at whether or not you believe in : an 'objective' reality. It's ok. Heidegger would say it's not a good question. :) Feel free to skip it. :) : : : : : I liked your emphasis on the aesthetic, too. : : : However, beauty also varies according to culture. A beautiful woman in one culture could be considered quite ugly in another. : : i view truth, beauty and goodness as One (but I concede the pragmatic point) : Yes, you are speaking on a more transcendent level. I don't think I would say they are One but I get your point. I think they are interconnected somewhat like the Trinity without being the same thing. Truth would be the Father, Beauty the Son and Goodness the Holy Spirit. How's that for a late evening interpretation? :) : : :I am left with sharing creative versions of my stories via fairy tales and children's stories. After all, what logical minded rationalist would believe them! : : POSITIVELY, we need to better nurture both the individual and collective application of our intuitive faculties, especially in our western : : spiritualities. Tony deMello spent his life teaching the importance of awareness versus analysis, of insight versus information, perhaps patterned after the founder of his order, St. Ignatius, who emphasized the need to "taste" the truth versus merely "knowing" the truth. Oliver Sacks' book and movie, Awakenings", describes how brain-damaged individuals can be roused out of stupor by music and art when nothing else can reach them. None of this is to denigrate the other modes of contribution. It is offerred as an affirmation of what has been too often neglected, of what we might more often be about in spiritual direction. : Yes, John, we agree here, too. I had the good fortune of attending two workshops lead by the late Tony DeMello. Both workshops were filled with rolling- on-the-floor-type laughter. None of this polite 'tee hee' brand. I laughed so hard I cried. Boundaries between 'religious' and 'non-religious' fell away. The work and delight of the Holy Spirit was palpable. : : : From Amos Wilder: "Imagination is a necessary component of all profound knowing and celebration ... It is at the level of imagination that any full engagement with life takes place." : : From Morton Kelsey: "God knew that human beings learn more by story and music, by art, symbols, and images than by logical reasoning, theorems, and equations, so God's deepest revelations have always been expressed in images and stories." : : And, don't forget Einstein, "Imagination is more important than knowledge." : Thanks for the quotes. I love them. I save meaningful quotes. : : And so, perhaps a different experience of the mystery of God is in store for the asking. Our growth in freedom, in love ...in awareness via all faculties ...may ensue. : I noticed that you refered to the experience as a "dance" in your post to Phil. That's it. Precisely. It's a dance. : I also have no intention of denigrating other or others's ways of the dance. However, for me, it is everywhere. Literature. Art. Music. You name it. It's almost impossible not to see God : all around us. : And, speaking of dance, thanks for this one jb..... : Take care. : Diana

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