Re: Levels of consciousness

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: >: CeCe, while I know what you mean about WSelf being the One who is really attending through all things, there are the things through which Self is attending,< : Yes, and I call them people/souls having various states of consciousness. : :> and that is what I meant by the other. They are not other than Self, but are other than this Soul through whom Self is attending.< : ...as in many people, (many souls) equaling the One Self/One Soul. : I guess a decent analogy for purposes of understanding through my vision would be as if we were once the Sun/Son in the sky in its totality which had erupted into (besides other chemical properties) brilliant specs of Light and it is this brilliant spec of Light at the core of our existence - however it gets expressed by us as individuals through various states of consciousness, it is still Light and we are but many souls of this Light who together comprise that one Sun/Son Soul through which Self attends. : : >>: In my opinion, again, through my awareness of now, all I can say to this is that these supposed "sins" at the stage of Realization is just as possible as it was beforehand, the only difference being "it" becomes manifested through "conscious choice" (while awake) rather than "unconscious choice" (while asleep.)<< : >: Yes. I'll go along with that. But that still doesn't change the fact that there are consequences which affect clarity of consciousness. . . at least, such is my experience.< : That's a given, but not the issue in debate which was as you said, "eating, drink, mental exertion, and excersize" having effect clarity. : The only circumstance which does affect clarity is when as individuals human ego dominates Divine Ego and as human beings living in this world we need to have both or there would be no manifesting the un-manifest for God works to come "through." : So it is necessary and the "thing" of which at times is cause for lack in clarity as we realistically cannot function here without personality activated. : Yes - it can be cause of so called negative action as well for we just do not, (as needed personalities) function in Divine mode of consciousness when dealing with those "others" in the world. : We still go to the store for milk & bread, go shopping at the Mall with friends, argue over parking spaces, are involved in the wheein' and dealin' end of business interactions and so on and deal every second with the various states of consciousness others have activated which again, realistically is but our own consciousness of days past that we "put in" so to speak "coming back" at us yet no longer at this time shared due to the natural process of transmutation on our part. More Karma generated if anything. : So we are in a sense, off our Divine guard, if you will and have to be in that Karma manifests. : It is only when we are in the quiet of comtemplation/meditation that we once again connect or go into union on a conscious level with God for God's requirement among others for this union is but what He Himself resonates with which is mind through silence and lack in/of activity. : >: I would indeed like you to participate in the kundalini discussion area I'll be setting up. My goal is to have it done by November 1, so I'll keep you posted. There's a lot more I'd like to explore with you about Self, sin, etc., but I'll hold off until then. In the meantime, I gladly accept your lol's.< : Looking forward. : Love CeCe

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