Today, I'd like to deal with a popular myth and urban legend, "The media are liberal." If we do the hard work of analysis and are willing to leave the Matrix, we must have a guide.
Robert McChesney is a professor of media studies at the university of Champaign-Urbana. Robert McChesney has hosted a weekly program dealing with media issues since 2002. Spoonboy has listened to all of them, and has read "The Problem of the Media," one of many of Dr. McChesney's works on the subject, along with several hundred footnotes in each chapter documenting media bias in the United States.
Rush Limbaugh just signed a contract for $285,000,000. That's how much the world is willing to pay to be entertained, to be lied to, to have their ears tickled, their guilty conscience salved ,etc.
There are a group of counterfeiters in the United States, and their counterfeiting operation has never been exposed by the "liberal media," even after 94 years. Nixon had a cow when PBS ran a program called "Banking and the Poor" and no one has dared to attempt it since then. Search this...
The media protect the counterfeiters, have done so for 94 years, and that's not "liberal." Case closed!
"Blatant propaganda." -McChesney on 911 coverage
"For the time will come when they will no longer endure listening to sound doctrine, but having itching ears, will heap up to themselves teachers after their own lusts..." II Timothy 4:3
This explains why Rush is popular and Robert McChesney does the program as a labor of love.
This explains how even well meaning people have come to believe this lie, and to propagate it.
BTW….I knew McChesney would be back in your thread.......
You know……your arguments are bits and pieces of things that are pasted together into something that really doesn’t make any sense; they really are an exercise in convoluted logic!
I know I have asked this before, but what is your point? If it is to show, by using tired old left wing and anarchist arguments, that conservatives are somehow living in a deluded “Matrix type” existence, I don’t think you are very persuasive. At least show us how the McChesney/Chomsky world would look – oh that’s right, the Soviet Union sort of dissolved. Talk about living in a “Matrix.”
"The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction... I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity...is but swindling futurity on a large scale." Thomas Jefferson
I don't know if we should trust him, that miscagenator who wrote that "God-damned piece of paper." He probably wore a tinfoil hat and had black helicopters landing in his backyard.
OTOH, perhaps we are missing something...
Don't even get me started on standing armies....
Congratulations, Boston! Could be only six games after all Right again, AMH!
quote:I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity...is but swindling futurity on a large scale." Thomas Jefferson
And when Jefferson died, he was in serious debt. I don't think he managed his money well, so he should've been more careful in dealing with banks. Do you think this influenced his thinking?
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I'll listen to McChesney's podcasts if you will:
read and listen to David Horowitz (the anti Chomsky) Read Mark Steyn's blog. Watch the O'Reilly factor every night! Listen to Dennis Miller in the afternoon.
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"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought s(p)ooner or later is the people versus the banks."
-Lord Acton
"Banks have done more injury to to the religion, morality, tranquility, prosperity, and even the wealth of a nation than they have ever done or will do good."
-John Adams
"The modern Banking system manufactures money out of nothing, the process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can, in fact, inflate, mint, and unmint the modern ledger entry currency."
-Major L.L.B. Angus
"The Federal Reserve Bank is nothing but a banking fraud and an unlawful crime against civilization. Why? Because they 'create' the money out of nothing, and our Uncle Sap Government issues their 'Federal Reserve Notes' and stamps our Government approval with NO obligation whatever from these Federal Reserve Banks, Individual Banks or National Banks, etc."
-H.L. Birum, Sr.
"The trade of the petty userer is hated with most of the reason, it makes profit from currency itself, instead of making it from the process which currency was meant to serve. Their common characteristic is obviously their sordid avarice.
-Aristotle, the Father of Reason
On a lighter note, my favorite, Woody Allen
"If only God would give me a clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank."
Rumour has it that the NWO will be run from Switzerland, which Hitler and Mussolini feared to invade. Thanks Woody!
Need any more red pills? I can stop if its too much.
I have never watched Fox News, since I saw the Outfoxed documantary first. Some of Horowitz on Chomsky is ok. McChesney says its a poorly written and researched book.
"You have to understand. most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.Most people are so deeply inurred, so dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
-Morpheus
"I owe you an apology. We never free a mind past a certain age. Its dangerous. The mind has trouble letting go. I've seen it before and I'm sorry.I did what I did because I had to. -Morpheus
I know I have asked this before, but what is your point?
I think it is to:
A. Help Ron Paul get elected - but because that won't happen:
B. Get Cheney convicted of something (surely there must be a gazillion possibilities?) and replace him with Ron Paul, then impeach Bush.
OK, that's a l o o o n n n g shot! So:
C. Get Ron Paul to replace Ben Bernake on the Federal Reserve, whereafter Paul disbands the institution, announces we're going gold-standard, and passes out money pouches to all citizens, encouraging savings between the matresses.
All right, not likely:
D. Get Ron Paul on Air America more often.
So, nobody listens to them:
E. Get Ron Paul to read Gandhi at some televised church service or another.
Well, nobody watches that stuff either:
F. Get Gandhi elected President
Wait . . .
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Evidence of fascism in the neoconservative movement:
From wikipedia:
"Fascism is an authoritarian" Note how close George W. Bush is to Mussolini on the Political Compass, (if you take the test, the chart pops up) way up in the authoritarian right quadrant, Margaret Thatcherish, you might say.
spoonboy is -5.25 Economic Left-Right and -4.10 Libertarian/authoritarian, which is to say, Nelson Mandelish, Daniel Berriganish, Desmond Tutuish and Dorothy Dayish, as well As Catherine Doughertyish.
"political ideology" corporatist/militarist "(generally tied to a mass movement)" Islamophobic interventionist imperialism "that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interest of the state" domestic surveillance, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, executive privilege, signing statements, Military Commissions Act, police state apparatus, Constitution is a Goddamned piece of paper, unitary executive, secrecy, paper shredders, lost e-mails, failure to answer subpoenas, politically motivated firings of U.S. attorneys, stacking the courts with ideologues, etc.
"Fascists seek to form a national unity based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes" See above plus Ann Coulter, Mark Steyn, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Jack Abramoff, Senator "Macacca," AIPAC, the ADL, Jena, Louisiana, Islamophobes, PNAC, Christian Coalition, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, National Review, frontpagemag, David Duke, etc.
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck....
"Fascist is as fascist does, my momma used to say." -Forest4thetrees Gump
Lots of beer around the vicinity of Fenway Park about now. Congrats Sox fans!
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Back to the international banking conspiracy at the heart of the New World Order:
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
-Abraham Amschell Bauer
"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international monetary lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside of the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States."
-Senator Barry Goldwater
"This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the President [Wilson] signs this bill, the invisible governement of the monetary power will be legalized...The worst crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."
-Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.
"John D. Rockefeller wanted to dominate oil, but Microsoft wants it all, you name it: cable, media, banking, car dealerships."
-Ralph Nader
"Banking was concieved in iniquity and born in sin." -
-Josiah Stamp
"It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did,, I believe, there would be a revolution tomorrow."
-Henry Ford
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class."
-Rothchild Brothers of London, 1863
"From now on depressions will be created scientifically."
Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
"The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money."
Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1923
"The Federal Reserve Bank buys government bonds without one penny."
-Congressman Wright Patman, Congressional Record, September 30, 1941
Am I seeing a pattern here, or did my tinfoil hat fall off?
quote:I have never watched Fox News, since I saw the Outfoxed documantary first.
I am not surprised by this at all - now think, spoons - why do you think that there are so many web sites dedicated to smearing Fox, O' Reilly, et. al.? I hope there is a glimmer of light peaking through..................
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The Ron Paul multiple choice was great - it begs the question, though - would Ron Paul vote for spoonboy?
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Great picture. I can imagine that Red Sox fans are quite happy about the way things are going so far.
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About the Fed . . . look what they've gone and done. Put everything up on one web site. Sneaky, secretive conspirators! Click the Fed 101 tab. - http://www.federalreserveeducation.org
A picture of this fella was found entering the back door of one of their meetings:
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quote:About the Fed . . . look what they've gone and done. Put everything up on one web site. Sneaky, secretive conspirators
Sons of bitches!!!
LOL!
It's really an excellent site. I watched the 14 min. video in Real Player. Very informative! It seems that without the Fed plays a necessary and vital role in the economy. Without it, we wouldn't even have a uniform currency standard.
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By the end of this thread, hopefully, we will see how much alike Lenin and Greenspan really are. But that all depends on the willingness of the participants.
Defending the Fed is really gonna place you in a morally bankrupt corner, the selfsame type of moral corner every addicted person or society reaches eventually............. I feel your pain!
quote: By the end of this thread, hopefully, we will see how much alike Lenin and Greenspan really are. But that all depends on the willingness of the participants.
A stitch in time saves nine Fed Politburo Chairmen.
"Do not try to bend the spoon. That is impossible!"
"Instead, only try to realize the Truth."
"What truth?"
"There is no spoon."
"How many times can the Fed bend the spoon before it snaps?" -spoonboy's Book of Shadows, page 101
"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the currupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it."
-Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa.)
"I have seen more senators express discontent with their jobs....I think the major cause is that, deep down in our hearts, we have been accomplices in doing something terrible and unforgiveable to our wonderful country. Deep down in our heart, we know that we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected."
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I don't think you should quote McFadden - we already discredited him. The Danforth quote is relevant, though. But alas, you continue to mix apples with oranges.
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........unlike Steve Levitt who tries to show that sometimes what you think is an apple on the outside is really an orange inside... Posts: 417 | Registered: Oct 2007
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I'm curious: aside from all the innuendo quotes, which really don't say much, just what exactly has the Fed supposedly done that is so corrupt and sinister? They provide a currency standard, manage money supply, oversee banking, and a whole lot more. They are supervised, and their board meetings are made public. So what's the deal? And the alternative? That wasn't so hot -- some 35 different currencies in the U.S. in the late 19th C.!
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