Posted by CeCe on September 27, 19100 at 17:19:15:
In Reply to: Re: True Self, False Self. . .what is it? posted by Diana on September 27, 19100 at 17:16:28:
(said Phil to Diana) : You do not possess divinity, so it is not yours to "realize."
(Diana's reply): "The grace bestowed on us by the ascension of Jesus is the divinization of our humanity...."
(p. 71) "The Heart of the World" by Thomas Keating
No, we don't possess it but it is part of our humanity.
(said Phil): So, given that understanding, I'm not sure what you mean by your Christ self. Nor does your explanation of sin as somehow missing the mark of Christ self make much sense to me unless I know what you mean by Christ self. To my knowledge, the only Christ self I have is Christ, who is not me, but who has integrated me into His Being through grace. If you are saying that you think your real self is divine, and that you can somehow "realize" this as something you possess ontologically rather than by grace, then count me out. That's Hinduism, and I just don't buy it.
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What follows is Phil's personal e-mail to CeCe via AOL.
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Subj: Re: Are you Interested?
Date: 9/10/00 3:08:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: phil@shalomplace.com (Phil St. Romain)
To: Sesessy@aol.com
(Phil quotes CeCe's prior communication to him by the symbol (>) then responds.)
>Anyway- and with all due respect, >those "figures" (Jesus and such) as
>interpreted by the Catholic Church have very >different meanings to me - with
>the Blessed Mother representing the Kundalini >Fire which evenutally leads one
>to see the reality of who Jesus really is - >which is none other than
>oneself...
>But that's another story indeed!
(Phil's reply)
Indeed! I am much interested in kundalini, being one who has been
blessed/cursed by this. I've even written a book on the topic.
Sounds like you've made some interesting connections between
kundalini and the Christian mysteries. I'm thinking of setting up a
part of my web site for people to be able to discuss this. If you're
interested, I'll let you know when it comes up.
Peace,
Phil
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Phil,
How do you reconcile this statement to Diana -"the only Christ self I have is Christ, who is not me,"
to...
the one you told me?...
(CeCe)
>Anyway- and with all due respect, >those "figures" (Jesus and such) as
>interpreted by the Catholic Church have very >different meanings to me - with
>the Blessed Mother representing the Kundalini >Fire which evenutally leads one
>to see the reality of who Jesus really is - >which is none other than
>oneself...
>But that's another story indeed!
(Phil)
"Indeed!"
...and Diana, if you need further assistance and/or guidance don't hesitate to e-mail me at sesessy@aol.com, I will do what I can for you,
and again, God Bless you, for it took virtue to be where you are on your spiritual journey.
Love CeCe