Posted by CeCe Light on September 27, 19100 at 17:27:23:
In Reply to: Re: True Self, False Self. . .what is it? posted by Diana on September 27, 19100 at 17:23:02:
: CeCe wrote:
: : Phil, there is our false self and our Christ self.
: : As our false self dies, our true self or Christ self is realized. In other words, we had it before but we didn't know it was us. Our Christ self is who we really are.
: : I don't understand what you don't understand. :)
: Ok, this is the heart of it, for what you've put up here is Hinduism, which views the human ego as an illusion or false self. What you're saying is that the only subjective reality is God, and everything else is false. And that's where I disagree.
: There is a human soul, which is a creature: not-God, and it has a self, part of which is a false self, but it also has a psychological self which is its human, creaturely subjectivity, it's I am, if you will. The human soul has intelligence and will, and there is a subject to whom this belongs--the individual.
: In the spiritual journey, the false self conditioning of the human self must die, and the self becomes integrated into the Christ Self. The human self is not lost--it is incorporated into the Christ Self, and knows by means of Christ.
: What is missing in all of your sharing about this, CeCe, is a recognition of creation as something that is not-God. You don't seem to understand how God can create something, and that something not be God: how something can be of-God and in-God without itself being God. I don't know how to help you understand this . . . maybe you don't want to. An adult ed class or some reading in Catholic theology could help, if you're interested. This understanding is basic to the entire Judeo-Christian-Islam family of religions.
: Peace,
: Phi
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This wasn't my post, it was Diana's, and a good one too, but since you already addressed it to me, I'd like to respond.
:You don't seem to understand how God can create something, and that something not be God: how something can be of-God and in-God without itself being God.
Not when you believe Pure Consciousness is God and that all and everything created here is of this consiousness/energy of God.
So in this respect, everything-everywhere represents our interpretation of God because it is consciousness manifested through various states of vibrating energies in God.
Love CeCe