Re: Where is the Body of Christ?

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: : Hi Anne, : Sorry to keep you waiting. As you know from my : private posts, I've been busy offline. : As you mentioned elsewhere, we really are all over the place with our conversation so I'll try to : narrow the focus a bit, if it's okay with you.... : but we're still pretending to be in the same setting, ok?--Starbucks. : I know you are speaking out of friendly love and affection for me. I think you know I am doing likewise. : Now, it's your turn to sip on that very best Colombian coffee while I chatter..... : D: : .... the 'punishment' is inherent in the behavior itself. : : **ah, lassie. tis true...we punish ourselves immensely, BUT there is still the temporal : : punishment...and dear ole purgatory. Purgatory is the most sensible of sensible. : : Diana...*I* just don't think we can get off that easy.....** : I need to make a correction in a word I used above, Anne. I should have used the word 'consequence' instead of punishment. I agree with you in that we do punish ourselves, at times. However, I think : saying that our behaviors have inherent consequences more accurately portrays my idea. : And, Anne, I think God loves us so much that : we do get off that easy! :) : A: : *I* can do some of the dumbest things, but : : think they are the smartest ...until later. :)** : Yep. Me, too. : ..... : D: : : In that case, we : : : really need a God that loves us through it all. The God of : : overwhelming Love, Compassion, and Mercy. : : **but we are still accountable, are we not? From your above statement, may I ask: do you : : believe in an afterlife.... : : and if so, does that mean there is no punishment in the after life? : Of course I believe in an afterlife, Anne. However, I think heaven, hell, and purgatory can : and often do begin right here and now. We go through periods of purification on our spiritual journey. We sometimes create our own hell on earth. We also sometimes attain a realization of : union with God. It's happening all here and now. There's something that needs revision in our conception of time.....As you can see, I'm still working on this idea. :) : : ..... : A: : : : : **am going to look for the article** : : If I find it, I'll let you know the exact issue and date. However, it had nothing to do with the rainbow sash movement. It was about the general tone of bullying. : ............. : (the abortion issue comments)... so probably be : : best to leave it be. ....using good dialogic dialogue, that is! ;0 : Yep! I wholeheartedly agree. :) : : : More of D: : A: : : **Diana...this is a bit like trying to bait me...but yes, I know the scripture...Gal 2:20, : Anne, I wasn't trying to bait you. I just guessed : correctly, in this case, that you would know it. :) : but cannot : : see how that is the same as the consecrated Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ. : : I am struggling to find a way to explain it....ah, yes! We are all created by our Lord jesus : : Christ who was The Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God...and : : therefore, since we are all created by Christ, then He abides in all. So, when I look at my : : neighbor, I am to see 'Christ' in that neighbor [not the jerk who has too many loudmouthed : : roosters who crow all day long---] : : That is not the same as the Christ present in the Eucharist...** : Yes, Anne, I understand what you're saying...and I love your example. :) : ...... : A: : (in regards to my married people comment) : : **heheheeeeee .,only if you advertised as they did! :) sorry, but that tickled me funny bone. : : ** : : I can hear you laughing!!!! You are a sweetheart! : A: : .... Now, no priest knows who is and who isn't : : in a state of grace as they : : : : come down to receive,...... : My point exactly Anne. See! We agree here! :) : : .... : A: : (in regards to the bishops who allowed the rainbow sash people to receive the Eucharist) : : **So, does that make it right? especially when the bishops had agreed the previous summer : : NOT to allow R.S. to receive. And one of the bishops...Bishop Clark....well, he is bishop of : : rochester area...and it took him 20 years or so, to finally stop a priest who was allowing nuns to : : give the homily, and other non-liturgically correct 'stuff'.....** : That's probably one of the reasons why I like him so much! :):):) He appears to be following his own : consciousness..... and at a great price. : ....... : : **I am not sure how to interpret this.....so maybe you might need to clarify, ok? I do know : : that the bishops, during Atlanta mtg., were concerned about the lack of many Catholics to : : understand the REAL Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist....[via transubstantiation],...and they : : have reaffirmed transusbstaniation completely. You can read it at their website, if you wish....it : : can be found at: : : http://www.nccbuscc.org/dpp/realpresence.htm : : Anne, I already believe in the real presence so I don't have to read what the Bishops said about it. : I just think that even Jesus would put the real presence secondary to the hurt it is causing to : human beings who are being treated as deficient and being denied a seat at the family table. I tend to think Jesus would get up, leave the dinner, and go sit outdoors with the person who is rejected. THAT'S how much I think God LOVES us. : Jesus bent and broke rules for people frequently. : He cared about the individual human being much more than he cared about rules. : ...... : D: : : : I haven't come up with a formal definition for the Sacraments : : yet....:) : : **There are some great ones in the Catechism! :) : : You are being a smarty pants Anne Ward! And, I like you a lot !!! :):):) : Now, let me finish this brownie and suffer the consequences!!! :) : : (Oh, and Phil... thanks for not pointing all our non-sequitors and stuff. :)) : Your online friend, : Diana

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