Posted by johnboy on January 26, 19101 at 09:29:28:
In Reply to: Re: Px OS-ontology-epistemology-metaphysics-mysticism? hey Ivan! posted by Loretta on January 26, 19101 at 05:57:42:
: From Ivan's posting in another sub-thread: He mentions: 1) our ontology (using a hierarchy which allows for continuity/discontinuity to be an open-ended question); 2) our epistemology - which can be pluralistic and still not unscientific; 3) verily, verily, yea, even our metaphysics using your Thomistic approach to causality (though I wince at its transmutation back to Aristotlean ideas of formal and logical causes and positively deny final causes, at least those that are teleological); 4) a natural mysticism (strictly monistic though).
Loretta, thanks for re-threading this post of Ivan's. I would encourage Ivan and anyone else who is interested in the science-religion dialogue, comparative mysticism, western religious philosophies and mysticism to research, on the web, the thoughts of John Haught, Ken Wilber, Samuel Brainard and James Arraj. Follow their reference citations or bibliographies to other interesting authors.
And you, Loretta, with your Catholic upbringing and Eastern explorations might especially appreciate both Arraj and Philip St. Romain. I won't spoil the surprise but I think you'll enjoy the East-West dialogue they have nurtured, conceptually and experientially.
With that said, I'd like to prod us again in the direction of experience. At what parts of your spiritual journey do you feel like you are tapping into the functionality of PxOS? What about any virus programs running in the background of your journey?
Would a good diagnostics program which checks system performance reveal where your hardware and software configurations could use some tweaking in order to better enjoy the full functionality of PxOS?
Would this diagnostics program indicate how well you are utilizing your resources (time, talent, treasure and technology and charisms/gifts of the Spirit of 1 Cor 12)?
Would the diagnostics reveal maximum throughput (the fruits of the Spirit of Galations 5:22)?
What would a good updated anti-virus program (if you've installed PxOS you won't need upgrades to detect corrupt code) reveal your fixes, addictions, habits, vices and areas of sinfulness?
Have you thought of acquiring new applications software that can run in PxOS but which you just couldn't run on your old Human OS? Maybe some social skills if you were an introvert? Maybe some meditative approaches if you were an extrovert? Maybe more intuitive approaches for the thinkers, etc ad infinitum per Jungian individuation?
Let's try to deal with some experiential issues now that we have SO many conceptual ones articulated (which is great, but headache-inducing if too much).
I'll be pondering the answers to some of these questions in my life, too.
Things are coming together quite well, I believe.
later,
johnboy
p.s. to Ivan, these questions apply to you , too, even if you
choose to approach individuation and humanization from a natural,
material hermeneutic; I would very much apppreciate your
contributions here (E.O. Wilson, Konrad Lorenz, Carl Sagan, Richard
Dawkins and otherwise)