Posted by Philip St. Romain on September 27, 19100 at 17:12:28:
In Reply to: Re: True Self, False Self. . . Bernadette Roberts posted by Diana on September 27, 19100 at 17:10:53:
In Reply to: Re: Levels of consciousness posted by Diana on September 22, 19100 at 19:19:12:
: Are you saying that Bernadette has re-interpreted
: Christian mystical tradition to suit her own needs? And, in an inaccurate fashion? Am I also to believe that you are saying her work is not credible? Fun, but not credible?
Yes. That's what I'm saying! There are some very sound parts of her writings, but others which just don't hold up. To make matters worse, she is incapable of dialoguing about this, and of hearing the objections.
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: would realizing our Christ self involve having perfect psychological integration? There have been some pretty sick saints!
No. But that depends on what you mean by Christ self. It's not necessarily the same thing that people mean by Enlightenment, which definitely doesn't require much psychological intetration.
There are at least three journeys: psychological, metaphysical, and mystical. What's confusing is that people use the word Self as the fulfillment of them all.
: A butterfly doesn't act like a caterpiller.
Not unless it's still got caterpillar conditioning.
: The reason I am belaboring this point is because I have also had intutions similar to this during
: periods of meditation. I think there is much to this idea that you are simply misinterpreting and
: dismissing. I also think a lot of it has to do with how one defines sin.
Not sure what I'm misunderstanding. Not sure, either, why it's so difficult to understand what sin is. It's simply the human will out of alignment with the Divine will, acting to reinforce its sense of separateness and self-sufficiency. Missing the Mark is another way of putting it, as long as the Mark is considered conformity with the divine will.
: With appreciation,
: Diana
Peace,
Phil